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Will People On the Internet Ever Stop Stealing Each Other’s Shit?

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“That feeling when you see something of yours floating around Tumblr with 70k notes uncredited.”

In a recent post, Chelsea Fagan identifies a feeling that everyone who’s spent time online has experienced (albeit in most cases with fewer zeros after that seven). My most surprising personal experience along these lines came when my cousin pointed out that “The 25-Year-Old Virgin,” a Tangential post I wrote, was appearing on the “Popular” feed of—wait for it—Pinterest. It’s still easy to find there, linked generically to Tumblr.com. At least the original pinner included my name, which appeared at the end of the Tumblr post; would she have done so if the essay had been posted to my personal Tumblr, where I wouldn’t have needed to identify myself as the author in the text of the post?

In many cases, photos move even more freely than text. In my job as an editor at the Twin Cities Daily Planet, I’ve seen photos taken by me and other photographers nabbed and used for any number of purposes—including promotional purposes—often without credit to the photographer or the Daily Planet. I can’t get on a very high horse, though, since I’m sure I’ve used other people’s images without permission. I try to be responsible about using only approved promotional images, Creative-Commons-licensed images with link to the photographer and the license, or photos I otherwise have permission to use—but when things get quick-and-dirty, especially on Tumblr, I don’t always follow such niceties.

It’s easy to feel like you don’t share in the guilt of credit-less sharing when the content has already been separated from any authorial credit. For example, who made this GIF of Juliette Danielle? Should I have credited the producers of The Room? God knows where BuzzFeed got this photo of a Coke can, but it might have been taken by a photographer who still owns the rights. Who made this meme? It’s easy for the link between creator and content to be broken, and once it’s broken, it can be difficult (especially in the case of images, but sometimes in the case of text as well) to reconnect.

How do those links become broken? There’s a continuum of means and reasons, from deliberate piracy to sheer accidents. It doesn’t help that most people who use the Internet aren’t that good at it; for example, how many people on Pinterest even know how to insert a source link? Further, there’s still a widespread, semi-conscious, perception that people who create content online are somehow all part of giant corporations. Comments on my movie reviews often seem to assume that writing online is a rare (“How did you ever get a job as a movie critic?!”), lucrative (“It’s sad that you feel like you have to make fun of great movies just so you can get rich from ad sales”) opportunity. Distinctions between me and Rupert Murdoch seem to be lost.

It’s a tough issue, because the freeness of access that makes content easy to steal is also what makes the Internet awesome. It’s great to live in a world where anyone can get 70,000 notes, even if it’s also a world where they can do so by copying a paragraph from someone else’s post. In the past, intellectual property theft was easier to contain because production was so cumbersome that it was hard to produce anything to meaningful scale without being noticed. On the Internet, you can quickly grab 70,000 eyeballs without anyone even noticing that hey, you didn’t actually write that!

Is there a way to keep that ease of access while also curtailing intellectual property theft? Hopefully. Technology is already moving to fill that gap. For example, the rise of embeddable content means that you can increasingly share videos, photos, and text without actually republishing that content on your own site. As tools like Google reverse image search and Shazam get better, it will be easier to find the original sources of images and sound files. Though many music artists criticize Spotify for paying them too little, the concept behind that service seems to point the way forward for licensing content: the content is hosted remotely, and users essentially pay per play (either through a fee or through ad exposure) rather than being forced to pay a full unlimited-play purchase price for every single item they ever want to access. Think about how that could be generalized to photos and text: if I want to feature an image on my blog, I embed it through a CMS that has access to major image libraries, then I pay a fee to the owner if, say, my post gets a certain amount of traffic or makes a certain amount of ad revenue.

My hope is that the problem—the Internet—continues to develop into its own solution. As more and more people get used to the idea that we’re all content creators, they’ll care more and more about developing both norms of conduct and technological solutions that help curtail content theft—that allow content to be easily accessed and shared, but with proper attribution and perhaps with a system for generating revenue under certain circumstances.

What would that system look like? I don’t know, but I suspect that eventually we’ll figure it out. No one likes having their shit stolen, and when it comes down to it, I don’t think most people really like stealing shit either.

Jay Gabler


Photo by Charamelody (Creative Commons)

6 responses to “Will People On the Internet Ever Stop Stealing Each Other’s Shit?”

  1. Rhonda Avatar

    In our experience, as in yours, republishing without permission is so easy online and it is common for people to feel it is not theft in the true sense.

    You mention technology solving this problem … we believe it already has. We invite you to check out iCopyright.com. Technology is still just an enabler … it works when everyone agrees to play by the rules of getting permission, giving credit and respecting other’s terms for reuse of their content.

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  3. ED STRAKER Avatar
    ED STRAKER

    Sorry. Technology IS the problem, and so long as Google/YouTube, Tumblr, etc., are in themselves allowed to exist as businesses that were created by enabling theft, so that “on-line users” believe that they have a freedom to upload a copyright in ten minutes and have it depleted in 6 hours, then the problem will never be solved. These businesses enable theft and Columbia Pictures et. al v. Fung, IsoHunt (2013 9th Circuit) deems these companies as groups as catastrophic copyright infringers without ANY DMCA safe harbor protection.

    Eric Schmidt is first to be debated. His company, Google, enables theft to receive an income, period. He claims the onus has to be copyright owners stopping theft sites. But then his business provides everyone’s information to the NSA (see the Prism program) even if it is thefted.

    Well, I counter. Why did Google, and their million dollar lawyers lie in the Viacom case about downloading, and still lie about it? How much, TOTAL, has Google/YouTube collected with appended ads around all copyrighted content without any permission before all DMCA Takedown Notices have been tabulated, and how much have they returned (because not a nickel belongs to Google/YouTube). You’ll find out that Google returned ZERO, and received and administered a trillion DMCA Takedown Notices….a quick $45 Billion.

    So long as there are questions, and the statutes and case-law ignored, the Hydra monster, Eric Schmidt and Google, which is protected by the Obama Administration, keeps the theft alive every second.

    Read the book: HR-2281 And Then the DMCA Didn’t Apply on the Earth (Viacom v. Google). That is the book Eric Schmidt doesn’t want anyone to know, see, or promote. The man even used the same literary agency to block its release (so that his book could negotiate and screw the truth), but he can’t fight another computer scientist—the math still shifts against.

  4. Kevin L. Martinez (KayeLeM) Avatar

    I am a prime example of internet theft. I (KayeLeM) published my latest album Missing Links, I accidently discovered a way to find out if your music is being stolen, or whatever else they do with it. I say this because a “Richard Cranium”, from Music Brainz mocked my letter like a school girl, as I was only trying to warn him that someone is posting on their site illegally. He claims they are a Dot Org., and only Data is available, knowing darn well the outcome of these postings just the same. Four different times/bands have posted my stuff as their own. One from Spain, One Greece, one in some Slavic country, and the latest one called Kuba Supposedly from Germany. If you go to Freedb search Byzantine Compilation (Id #950eab0c). My album has 12 songs as their s did, so I played it and sure enough. My Music. The albums will probably be posted in a foreign Language, but once you play it you will know. So here is how I found my music, and you can check for yours also. I copied my album onto CD with my CD Recorder, so that I could “RIP”, That particular version onto my computer. I engaged the search on the options which uses Music Brainzless, and FreeDB to search for the Meta Data. I figured What the heck. I was a little surprised when this other band was posted. Believing it was an over sight. I was just about to delete it then I realized their album had twelve songs also, so what the heck! I gave it a try. I almost fell off my chair. Every song was from my album Missing Links. It makes sense that they figure no Author would ever Rip his own music, for it would already be on his computer, or they are not privy to this information. Either way. I want the world to know of this travesty, and Breach of integrity. No Wonder Freedb has the largest Database in the world. My album is posted 5 times with 5 different bands. Simple math say’s that they would have 5 times the quantity of the true official largest Database in the world. OK all you concerned artists, writers, etc… Go Rip your own Albums and see what may come up. I want all of us to know what is going on behind our backs, and stop this.

    1. J Ross Avatar
      J Ross

      I cannot follow the logic or even where that post is trying to go. These things contain zero data (music). If you came across any CD with 12 songs on it you can grab the titles etc bump them into the metatags on any 12 songs & when played it will play the data of the songs with whatever titles have been inserted. They have no music available in any way shape or form in those databases. Tagged incorrectly? Plausible.
      The Best of Byzantine Music (12th – 20th Century)
      Athens Byzantine Orchestra – which is one that came up under the ID search of the number you provided –
      if you actually look for this release (iTunes is one spot that has it) it has nothing to do with your songs. Whatsoever. If you downloaded that information to use as the tagging for your songs then the titles will state (what’s on the byzantine release) with your music as the data(sound) that shows on your computer. The name of a song can be anything. It is the data which matters. My guess – and it’s only a guess – is a lack of understanding of the processing etc of meta-tags & information stored(age). I could be wrong but neither myself nor several other musicians experienced with these things could figure out any other way for what you had happen to you. Again, there is no data provided by any of these type of services.

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